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		<title>By: Oprah, you disappointed me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oprah, you disappointed me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] her per se.  She&#8217;s a talk show host, for Pete&#8217;s sake, and certainly not a hateful windbag.  She&#8217;s likable enough, but I&#8217;ve just never seen the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: midlife mommy</title>
		<link>http://mothergoosemouse.com/2009/03/11/al-franken-was-right/comment-page-1/#comment-239961</link>
		<dc:creator>midlife mommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, as Mr. Frum did, let me give my own framework.  I am mostly a libertarian, but libertarians can&#039;t win an election to save their lives, sadly.  So, if I want fiscal conservatism, that means that I vote republican.  And, for the record, I&#039;m not quite sure what W was, but it sure as heck wasn&#039;t a fiscal conservative because tax cuts + increased spending = deficits (duh).

I do try to stay out of political discussions, but I fail to see how anyone can really believe that Rush Limbaugh is the leader of the republican party.  Democratic talking points are just talking points; they are spin, and this is nothing more than Chicago politics at its best.  I&#039;m saddened that the republicans haven&#039;t treated this straw man as I treat my daughter&#039;s tantrums (I ignore them for the most part).  And I have been very impressed how well this has has been working, and I mean that sincerely - hats off to these excellent politicians for being so convincing on the Limbaugh front.  

But - the promise was no taxes - OF ANY KIND - for anyone making less than $250K per year, not just payroll taxes.  Was everyone so distracted by the &quot;Limbaugh is the leader&quot; discussion that they didn&#039;t notice that the taxes on cigarettes increased tremendously this past week?  I don&#039;t smoke (I quit years ago), but I do know that the largest percentage of current smokers are poor people, and this is a tax that they will bear disproportionately.  Perhaps it will get them to quit, and yes, that&#039;s a good thing.  But what if your guilty pleasures are next as these smokers stop smoking?  The secret of a magic trick is in the set up - you are so focused on the distraction that you don&#039;t notice the essence of the trick has already happened right under your nose, before the showmanship has begun.

I do wish Limbaugh would have said what Frum has suggested (and these are his words, not mine):  &quot;I hope the administration&#039;s liberal plans fail.&quot; Or (better): &quot;I know the administration&#039;s liberal plans will fail.&quot; Or (best): &quot;I fear that this administration&#039;s liberal plans will fail, as liberal plans usually do.&quot;  That is what Limbaugh meant, and anyone who would stop and think for a moment would realize that.  He used the words that he did because he is an entertainer.  (I am not a ditto head, and I wouldn&#039;t ever have sat in his audience.)  Shame on the republicans for being so afraid to respond that way.

I also agree with Mr. Frum when he states:  “Political parties that do not deliver economic improvement for the typical person do not get reelected.&quot;  And when we are paying over $3,000 per year in both taxes and the increased cost of goods as a result of cap and trade (which most people that I know who voted for the democratic ticket haven&#039;t ever heard of, but hello!  it was approved in different forms by both houses last week), and when we are paying $3-$5,000 more per year in taxes on the employer-paid health insurance benefits that most Americans still enjoy, I think that message will resonate with the general public.

I wonder, at that point, who will step forward to lead us out of double digit inflation and a tax burden so heavy that it makes our grandchildren sigh.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;midlife mommys last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://midlifemommy.typepad.com/new_midlife_mommy/2009/04/dont-let-the-door-hit-you-on-the-way-out.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Don&#039;t Let The Door Hit You On The Way Out&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, as Mr. Frum did, let me give my own framework.  I am mostly a libertarian, but libertarians can&#8217;t win an election to save their lives, sadly.  So, if I want fiscal conservatism, that means that I vote republican.  And, for the record, I&#8217;m not quite sure what W was, but it sure as heck wasn&#8217;t a fiscal conservative because tax cuts + increased spending = deficits (duh).</p>
<p>I do try to stay out of political discussions, but I fail to see how anyone can really believe that Rush Limbaugh is the leader of the republican party.  Democratic talking points are just talking points; they are spin, and this is nothing more than Chicago politics at its best.  I&#8217;m saddened that the republicans haven&#8217;t treated this straw man as I treat my daughter&#8217;s tantrums (I ignore them for the most part).  And I have been very impressed how well this has has been working, and I mean that sincerely &#8211; hats off to these excellent politicians for being so convincing on the Limbaugh front.  </p>
<p>But &#8211; the promise was no taxes &#8211; OF ANY KIND &#8211; for anyone making less than $250K per year, not just payroll taxes.  Was everyone so distracted by the &#8220;Limbaugh is the leader&#8221; discussion that they didn&#8217;t notice that the taxes on cigarettes increased tremendously this past week?  I don&#8217;t smoke (I quit years ago), but I do know that the largest percentage of current smokers are poor people, and this is a tax that they will bear disproportionately.  Perhaps it will get them to quit, and yes, that&#8217;s a good thing.  But what if your guilty pleasures are next as these smokers stop smoking?  The secret of a magic trick is in the set up &#8211; you are so focused on the distraction that you don&#8217;t notice the essence of the trick has already happened right under your nose, before the showmanship has begun.</p>
<p>I do wish Limbaugh would have said what Frum has suggested (and these are his words, not mine):  &#8220;I hope the administration&#8217;s liberal plans fail.&#8221; Or (better): &#8220;I know the administration&#8217;s liberal plans will fail.&#8221; Or (best): &#8220;I fear that this administration&#8217;s liberal plans will fail, as liberal plans usually do.&#8221;  That is what Limbaugh meant, and anyone who would stop and think for a moment would realize that.  He used the words that he did because he is an entertainer.  (I am not a ditto head, and I wouldn&#8217;t ever have sat in his audience.)  Shame on the republicans for being so afraid to respond that way.</p>
<p>I also agree with Mr. Frum when he states:  “Political parties that do not deliver economic improvement for the typical person do not get reelected.&#8221;  And when we are paying over $3,000 per year in both taxes and the increased cost of goods as a result of cap and trade (which most people that I know who voted for the democratic ticket haven&#8217;t ever heard of, but hello!  it was approved in different forms by both houses last week), and when we are paying $3-$5,000 more per year in taxes on the employer-paid health insurance benefits that most Americans still enjoy, I think that message will resonate with the general public.</p>
<p>I wonder, at that point, who will step forward to lead us out of double digit inflation and a tax burden so heavy that it makes our grandchildren sigh.</p>
<p><abbr><em>midlife mommys last blog post..<a href="http://midlifemommy.typepad.com/new_midlife_mommy/2009/04/dont-let-the-door-hit-you-on-the-way-out.html" rel="nofollow">Don&#8217;t Let The Door Hit You On The Way Out</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Kelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen. And welcome to the Recovering Republican Born Again Democrat group:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen. And welcome to the Recovering Republican Born Again Democrat group:)</p>
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		<title>By: Hanna</title>
		<link>http://mothergoosemouse.com/2009/03/11/al-franken-was-right/comment-page-1/#comment-236692</link>
		<dc:creator>Hanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it poetic if Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh had Rosemary&#039;s baby? Either that, or Rush Limbaugh impregnates Ann Coulter, leaves her to be a single mother that she so incredibly dispises, while he has to roam the streets as a homeless drug addict, begging for Democratic social progams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it poetic if Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh had Rosemary&#8217;s baby? Either that, or Rush Limbaugh impregnates Ann Coulter, leaves her to be a single mother that she so incredibly dispises, while he has to roam the streets as a homeless drug addict, begging for Democratic social progams.</p>
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		<title>By: MommyNamedApril</title>
		<link>http://mothergoosemouse.com/2009/03/11/al-franken-was-right/comment-page-1/#comment-236691</link>
		<dc:creator>MommyNamedApril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so well put.  as always.  i&#039;ve said for years that i wish there were a party to join (that actually had some credibility and oompf) that was like the republican party minus the religion.  it&#039;s really hard to be an atheist republican.  really.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;MommyNamedAprils last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aprilslittlefamily.com/2009/03/zoo-love.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Zoo Love.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so well put.  as always.  i&#8217;ve said for years that i wish there were a party to join (that actually had some credibility and oompf) that was like the republican party minus the religion.  it&#8217;s really hard to be an atheist republican.  really.</p>
<p><abbr><em>MommyNamedAprils last blog post..<a href="http://www.aprilslittlefamily.com/2009/03/zoo-love.html" rel="nofollow">Zoo Love.</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former GOP member you have an interesting perspective here. It&#039;s easy for me as a socially liberal democrat to hate Rush Limbaugh and I&#039;ve always been unable to see why Republicans llisten to him. 

When this issue showed up in my mailbox this week, I was excited. Haven&#039;t had a chance to read it yet, but I look forward to it.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;TBs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://soulgardening.typepad.com/soul_gardening/2009/03/epiphany-nee-i-need-reinforcements.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Epiphany, nee I Need Reinforcements&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former GOP member you have an interesting perspective here. It&#8217;s easy for me as a socially liberal democrat to hate Rush Limbaugh and I&#8217;ve always been unable to see why Republicans llisten to him. </p>
<p>When this issue showed up in my mailbox this week, I was excited. Haven&#8217;t had a chance to read it yet, but I look forward to it.</p>
<p><abbr><em>TBs last blog post..<a href="http://soulgardening.typepad.com/soul_gardening/2009/03/epiphany-nee-i-need-reinforcements.html" rel="nofollow">Epiphany, nee I Need Reinforcements</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Rush Limbaugh round-up &#171; Virtualjournalist</title>
		<link>http://mothergoosemouse.com/2009/03/11/al-franken-was-right/comment-page-1/#comment-236668</link>
		<dc:creator>Rush Limbaugh round-up &#171; Virtualjournalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Al Franken was right. A former Republican explains why Rush is so wrong for the party: It’s high time that a known conservative spoke out against Rush Limbaugh as the de facto leader of the Republican party, and I’m just praying - in my own, godless heathen-like way - that he [David Frum] has big enough balls to stand by his statements and not apologize for them so as to get back in the good graces of Limbaugh and his listeners. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Al Franken was right. A former Republican explains why Rush is so wrong for the party: It’s high time that a known conservative spoke out against Rush Limbaugh as the de facto leader of the Republican party, and I’m just praying &#8211; in my own, godless heathen-like way &#8211; that he [David Frum] has big enough balls to stand by his statements and not apologize for them so as to get back in the good graces of Limbaugh and his listeners. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: margalit</title>
		<link>http://mothergoosemouse.com/2009/03/11/al-franken-was-right/comment-page-1/#comment-236658</link>
		<dc:creator>margalit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Frum&#039;s article yesterday and I&#039;m about as liberal as you can possibly be, and I thought it was brilliant. It made me understand more about the &quot;new Republicans&quot; vs the old &quot;right is the only way&quot; Republicans. I can&#039;t abide Rush, and I was thrilled to hear from an avowed conservative (Frum) that he feels similarly. Warmed my heart!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;margalits last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://outtamymindwithworry.blogspot.com/2009/03/what-day-this-has-been.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What a day this has been!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Frum&#8217;s article yesterday and I&#8217;m about as liberal as you can possibly be, and I thought it was brilliant. It made me understand more about the &#8220;new Republicans&#8221; vs the old &#8220;right is the only way&#8221; Republicans. I can&#8217;t abide Rush, and I was thrilled to hear from an avowed conservative (Frum) that he feels similarly. Warmed my heart!</p>
<p><abbr><em>margalits last blog post..<a href="http://outtamymindwithworry.blogspot.com/2009/03/what-day-this-has-been.html" rel="nofollow">What a day this has been!</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Mom101</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mom101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m looking forward to reading the article. But I don&#039;t know if I hate Rush as the face of the GOP. That sure bodes well for the demos.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mom101s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://mom-101.blogspot.com/2009/03/not-so-crafty.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Not so crafty&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to reading the article. But I don&#8217;t know if I hate Rush as the face of the GOP. That sure bodes well for the demos.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Mom101s last blog post..<a href="http://mom-101.blogspot.com/2009/03/not-so-crafty.html" rel="nofollow">Not so crafty</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Robyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Miss Grace - I think there are more of us in the middle than solidly left or right. Why we continue to run on this two party system is beyond me. 

I always enjoy reading your political posts because I share similar viewpoints, and usually wish I&#039;d said it just like you have.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Robyns last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://pocketaces.phools.com/2009/03/at-least-im-not-like-sam-the-butcher.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;At least I&#039;m not like Sam the Butcher.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Miss Grace &#8211; I think there are more of us in the middle than solidly left or right. Why we continue to run on this two party system is beyond me. </p>
<p>I always enjoy reading your political posts because I share similar viewpoints, and usually wish I&#8217;d said it just like you have.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Robyns last blog post..<a href="http://pocketaces.phools.com/2009/03/at-least-im-not-like-sam-the-butcher.html" rel="nofollow">At least I&#8217;m not like Sam the Butcher.</a></em></abbr></p>
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