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	<description>A first-grader destined for a career as a lawyer, a pre-schooler whose screams can shatter glass, a bouncing baby boy who evaded an IUD, a man who can drink his weight in Natty Light, and a woman who has long since given up caring about the condition of her kitchen floor.</description>
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		<title>By: mothergoosemouse &#187; Blog Archive &#187; It begins with us</title>
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		<dc:creator>mothergoosemouse &#187; Blog Archive &#187; It begins with us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 15:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve written before about how difficult it was to earn the respect and friendship of other female officers in the military.  Instead of the camaraderie I had expected, there was an atmosphere of distrust which fostered distrust on my part as well. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve written before about how difficult it was to earn the respect and friendship of other female officers in the military.  Instead of the camaraderie I had expected, there was an atmosphere of distrust which fostered distrust on my part as well. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: roo</title>
		<link>http://mothergoosemouse.com/2005/12/13/an-officer-and-a-lady/comment-page-1/#comment-1327</link>
		<dc:creator>roo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 02:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had the opportunity to work in a number of very boyish workplaces (where I was the only woman), and very  feminine or all-female workplaces, and I can say with perfect honesty that there are horrible examples of each of these environments, and wonderful ones. But I do prefer working with other women-- particularly chill women. And pretty much across the board, women-run shops have been MUCH cleaner than those run by men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had the opportunity to work in a number of very boyish workplaces (where I was the only woman), and very  feminine or all-female workplaces, and I can say with perfect honesty that there are horrible examples of each of these environments, and wonderful ones. But I do prefer working with other women&#8211; particularly chill women. And pretty much across the board, women-run shops have been MUCH cleaner than those run by men.</p>
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		<title>By: Kari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was definitely one of those gals whose best friends were boys. But then after becoming a mom, I found being friends with some women to be rewarding. 

My online baby group had plenty of politics, as did the first playgroup I joined. But luckily I realized I had the power of choice, so paid attention only to the fun posts and nice women, respectively. I&#039;ve since found a new mom&#039;s group where I have come across some great women. 

But mostly, my relationships with women are of the blogging variety. We get to choose who we read and vice-versa, so people whose personalities, politics, or whatever don&#039;t match ours can be taken off our daily reads. (Although I enjoy reading blogs from people whose ideas, opinions, politics, etc. are different from mine, but the respect is there - it isn&#039;t some catty fight!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was definitely one of those gals whose best friends were boys. But then after becoming a mom, I found being friends with some women to be rewarding. </p>
<p>My online baby group had plenty of politics, as did the first playgroup I joined. But luckily I realized I had the power of choice, so paid attention only to the fun posts and nice women, respectively. I&#8217;ve since found a new mom&#8217;s group where I have come across some great women. </p>
<p>But mostly, my relationships with women are of the blogging variety. We get to choose who we read and vice-versa, so people whose personalities, politics, or whatever don&#8217;t match ours can be taken off our daily reads. (Although I enjoy reading blogs from people whose ideas, opinions, politics, etc. are different from mine, but the respect is there &#8211; it isn&#8217;t some catty fight!)</p>
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		<title>By: Mother GooseMouse</title>
		<link>http://mothergoosemouse.com/2005/12/13/an-officer-and-a-lady/comment-page-1/#comment-1325</link>
		<dc:creator>Mother GooseMouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sugarmama, you are absolutely correct.  Both my PIMs and my fellow bloggers have shown me how much women really have in common and how well we can support one another, even when we come from completely different walks of life.

Holly, thanks for the book recommendation - I will check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sugarmama, you are absolutely correct.  Both my PIMs and my fellow bloggers have shown me how much women really have in common and how well we can support one another, even when we come from completely different walks of life.</p>
<p>Holly, thanks for the book recommendation &#8211; I will check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Sugarmama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sugarmama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, I hate to say things like &quot;Women can be awful to each other.&quot;  Women can also be wonderful to each other, and an us vs. them mindset just doesn&#039;t make sense. We&#039;re all humans, right?  That said, I wonder if in a traditionally male-dominated world--ie., the military, the Pentagon--women are less likely to be chummy with each other because they want to fit in more, go along with the prevailing attitudes.  Not that the following situation was otherwise similar, but your story reminds me of when I used to be pastry chef in a particular restaurant.  The head chef and all the other cooks were all male, and I and my helper were the only women.  You can bet that we weren&#039;t chumming around in front of those guys.  We did as the Romans did--there was a sort of kill or be killed air in that kitchen with all that testosterone.  Wonder if working in the Pentagon was something like that.  Dunno...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, I hate to say things like &#8220;Women can be awful to each other.&#8221;  Women can also be wonderful to each other, and an us vs. them mindset just doesn&#8217;t make sense. We&#8217;re all humans, right?  That said, I wonder if in a traditionally male-dominated world&#8211;ie., the military, the Pentagon&#8211;women are less likely to be chummy with each other because they want to fit in more, go along with the prevailing attitudes.  Not that the following situation was otherwise similar, but your story reminds me of when I used to be pastry chef in a particular restaurant.  The head chef and all the other cooks were all male, and I and my helper were the only women.  You can bet that we weren&#8217;t chumming around in front of those guys.  We did as the Romans did&#8211;there was a sort of kill or be killed air in that kitchen with all that testosterone.  Wonder if working in the Pentagon was something like that.  Dunno&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zube Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zube Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree.  I say, enjoy the ride.  It is sometimes difficult to have relationships with women, especially in the workplace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree.  I say, enjoy the ride.  It is sometimes difficult to have relationships with women, especially in the workplace.</p>
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		<title>By: leelee</title>
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		<dc:creator>leelee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  My sister and I are always having this conversation.  Sometimes we just want to hide out and not be social becuase of how women can act towards each other.  Have you ever seen &quot;Mean Girls&quot; - oh how true it is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  My sister and I are always having this conversation.  Sometimes we just want to hide out and not be social becuase of how women can act towards each other.  Have you ever seen &#8220;Mean Girls&#8221; &#8211; oh how true it is!</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of my biggest worries about raising my girl--helping her through the meanness, cliques, and general obnoxiousness dished out by other girls. At least I can share some survival stories from my own childhood.

As an adult, I&#039;ve always worked in groups made up almost exclusively of women. Thankfully--and maybe it&#039;s because I work in a more creative field, vs. a hard-nosed business environment?--I haven&#039;t experienced much bitchiness. I think that&#039;s rare, and I consider myself lucky. 

I do like the darts idea. If I still worked in an office I&#039;d introduce that game pronto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of my biggest worries about raising my girl&#8211;helping her through the meanness, cliques, and general obnoxiousness dished out by other girls. At least I can share some survival stories from my own childhood.</p>
<p>As an adult, I&#8217;ve always worked in groups made up almost exclusively of women. Thankfully&#8211;and maybe it&#8217;s because I work in a more creative field, vs. a hard-nosed business environment?&#8211;I haven&#8217;t experienced much bitchiness. I think that&#8217;s rare, and I consider myself lucky. </p>
<p>I do like the darts idea. If I still worked in an office I&#8217;d introduce that game pronto.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was fabulous Julie. Have you looked at the book &quot;Girlfighting&quot; by Lyn Mikel Brown? It is one of my faves and one that I will prevail upon Em to read someday. 

Being an ambitious, smart female is one of the most confusing roles there is. The dichotomy that our mothers told us we COULD be anything, and the truth of what we find when we get there is a hard truth. And women are suspicious of one another - perhaps for good reason at times.

But, you could always look at it from a purely evolutionary stance. As herd females, we must maintain our place in the pack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was fabulous Julie. Have you looked at the book &#8220;Girlfighting&#8221; by Lyn Mikel Brown? It is one of my faves and one that I will prevail upon Em to read someday. </p>
<p>Being an ambitious, smart female is one of the most confusing roles there is. The dichotomy that our mothers told us we COULD be anything, and the truth of what we find when we get there is a hard truth. And women are suspicious of one another &#8211; perhaps for good reason at times.</p>
<p>But, you could always look at it from a purely evolutionary stance. As herd females, we must maintain our place in the pack.</p>
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		<title>By: I am a Milliner's Dream, a woman of many "hats"...</title>
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		<dc:creator>I am a Milliner's Dream, a woman of many "hats"...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen friends of my sons be really, well...mean to each other.  Having man boys I didn&#039;t see this--the boys were competitive, but seemed to ENJOY it.  

I remember as a little kiddle being so hurt when being left out, overlooked, etc. Interesting that while reading this I realized that some of my most distinct memories are of those moments.  

I can easily shift to the good memories and realize that I am who I am now because of ALL the experiences.  But those &quot;mean&quot; moments sure are (STILL) hard to remember.

I&#039;m glad that you are going to teach Tacy and C.J. that respect and consideration are genderless.

Hh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen friends of my sons be really, well&#8230;mean to each other.  Having man boys I didn&#8217;t see this&#8211;the boys were competitive, but seemed to ENJOY it.  </p>
<p>I remember as a little kiddle being so hurt when being left out, overlooked, etc. Interesting that while reading this I realized that some of my most distinct memories are of those moments.  </p>
<p>I can easily shift to the good memories and realize that I am who I am now because of ALL the experiences.  But those &#8220;mean&#8221; moments sure are (STILL) hard to remember.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that you are going to teach Tacy and C.J. that respect and consideration are genderless.</p>
<p>Hh</p>
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